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by Michael Nystrom
September 26, 2007

Have you noticed? Chairman Ben (not to be confused with that all-powerful chairman from another time and place, Chairman Mao) has recently acquired a new nickname. No longer is he referred to merely as "Printing Press" or "Helicopter" Ben, those playful nicknames of yore which poked fun at his threats to stave off deflation via massive inflation. Those silly nicknames no longer accurately depict the amount of inflation he is prepared to produce, nor the destruction that such inflation will inevitably cause. Ben won't merely be tossing money from helicopters, content to let it flutter to the ground. His new nickname signals that he's deadly serious about his mission and he's pulling out the heavy artillery to prove it. The new nickname references the destruction the Fed's policies will inflict. Say hello to B52 Ben, who stands on the ready to carpet-bomb the world with the catastrophic effects of the inflation bomb.

B52 Ben Bernanke

If you haven't done so already, say goodbye to the American Dream. If the Fed has its way, inflation will destroy it to the point that most of us won't be able to afford nor recognize it. As Ron Paul makes clear, even though it appears that the money comes from thin air, it has to come from somewhere. Printing money has its own costs which are borne by the American people.

In spite of official government pronouncements, the cost of the things that matter most, the things that contribute to a higher quality of life - food, housing, energy, medical care and education - have been and will continue to spiral out of reach for many Americans. Just look at the price of oil and gold: Oil recently hit an all-time high of $84 per barrel. Gold is now trading over $700 per ounce, and many think it will surpass its all time high of $850 by year's end.

Do you believe the government when it says inflation is only 2%?

Commodities are clearly signaling the inflation that the Fed is creating. And yet, some still maintain that this is just a bubble. After the experiences of the past few years, this is understandable: We've seen bubbles come and go in Japan, SE Asia, the Nasdaq, and most recently, housing. Surely, many people think, the best gains in the commodities bubble have already been had. It is too late in the cycle to get in, because the "commodities bubble" will soon burst like the rest of them.

In Commodities for Every Portfolio, Emmanuel Balarie does an excellent job dispelling this myth. This is not a bubble, but a long-term boom, and we are still in its early stages. Fundamental factors favor its continued growth. We are in a global market, and the world's population is not only growing, it is getting wealthier, leading to increased commodity demand. There will be more mouths to feed, more houses to construct, more transportation systems to create, and more useless crap to buy - worldwide. All of this growth will put an increasing demand on a finite amount of commodities.

As advanced as mankind's manufacturing apparatus has become, we still cannot make oil, copper, zinc, iron, lead, platinum, silver or gold. We rely on nature to provide them for us, but once they are extracted, they cannot be replenished. Without a radical breakthrough in science, monetary technology, or in human nature, these finite resources will be depleted over time. As a result, they can only increase in value -- when measured in dollars that have a potentially infinite supply. As Richard Russell puts it, the US government must 'inflate or die.' Federal debts are too big to ever be repaid, and since the government has no intention of dying, inflate it must. And that money must go somewhere. In addition to the fundamental factors that Balarie cites, monetary factors point to a continued commodity bull run.

This being the case, how does one protect one's wealth from confiscation through inflation? Commodities markets remains a mystery to most people. Do commodities mean trading live hogs and pork bellies, learning new trading symbols and taking on excessive risk? Not necessarily.

While Balerie has a chapter on trading futures, I wouldn't recommend it to the average investor. The leverage in futures trading creates risk levels that are simply too high for a novice to fully understand and manage. Fortunately, you can capitalize on the commodities boom through investments that are more familiar - stocks, mutual funds and exchange traded funds. Balerie has a chapter on each that can help you clarify your priorities and how to think about structuring your investments. And because of the towering importance of gold, he has devoted an entire chapter to the merits of gold and the different ways of investing in it.

Part II: An Irrelevant Fed and the Return of Gold

For an excellent, comprehensive treatment of gold itself, see Nathan Lewis's excellent new book: Gold, The Once and Future Money. This is a 421 page book devoted exclusively to gold. Surprisingly, it is down right fascinating. It is among the best financial books that I have read this year. As Mr. Lewis states in his preface, "I have never seen a correct and complete description of how today's central banks work, nor have I seen a lot of evidence that others understand their workings, even central bankers themselves."

Amen! Thank you Nathan Lewis for the reassurance that it is not me who is crazy. Nearly every book on the subject of the Fed, Money and Gold (Save Griffin's Creature from Jekyll Island) has given me conflicting ideas and reasoning, and left me slightly more confused than before.

Lewis further states in his preface that:

[My book] is intended to stand alone. It could be picked up by an auto mechanic, a homemaker, a high school student, a real estate agent, or even a politician, journalist or central banker who would find everything they need to solve the major economic problems of the day, and create a functioning world monetary system from scratch. It is my expectation that enough auto mechanics, homemakers, high school students, and real estate agents will read it that politicians and central bankers will have to clean up their act out of sheer embarrassment.

Recent events indicate this may actually be happening. Ironically, a widespread rekindling of interest in gold and the gold standard may be sparked by Alan Greenspan's new memoir and his nonsensical ramblings on the subject of the gold standard in his many recent media appearances. Anyone who has read Lewis's book should have a powerful hogwash detector when it comes to listening to the words of the prior (and current) Fed chairman.

For example, it is well known that former Fed Chief Alan Greenspan was a disciple of Ayn Rand, who believed in (among other things) unregulated capitalism. When interviewed recently on NPR's Fresh Air, Greenspan was asked if he didn't see some irony that, despite his own self-proclaimed libertarian beliefs, he spent much of his time as one of the world's most powerful regulators.

Greenspan's response: Regulator? Moi?

Here is a transcript of the actual exchange. (This comes in the last seven minutes of the interview):

Greenspan: Well actually, we were not fundamentally regulators [at the Fed]. The vast portion of our efforts were not involved in bank regulation.

NPR: No, but you were regulating interest rates, which have a profound effect on world economies.

Greenspan: You're raising really a very interesting question. I have always argued that the gold standard of the 19th century was a very effective stabilizer. It kept inflation essentially at zero, and I felt it was critical for the tremendous growth that occurred for the American economy in the latter part of the 19th century. When we went off the gold standard essentially in 1933, we then had to have what we call "fiat money" which is essentially money that is - it's printed paper money. Which unless we restrict the volume of, can be highly inflationary.

The type of interest rate regulation that I and indeed most central banks in the last 20 years have been involved in...has been to try to replicate the laws and rules that were governing the gold standard. And so it is an odd situation where all the central bankers -- while none of them are advocating a return to the gold standard -- nonetheless try to replicate the various types of interest rate policies that the gold standard would have created. And it is an interesting question whether you call that regulation, or basically functioning of a central bank in stabilizing the economy."

In listening to his smooth, soothing voice, the meaning of his words can easily get lost. The man nearly puts you to sleep with what sounds like soothing wisdom. But in reading the above transcript, clarity returns with a vengeance. Allow me to clarify. What he said was: The gold standard was responsible for the tremendous growth during one of America's most innovative and productive periods, but unfortunately we "had to have" fiat money. (Really? We had to have it? Who made that decision for us?) Greenspan then goes on to admit that fiat money can be very inflationary, so it has to be regulated. However, in spite of the fact that he is the Chairman of the institution charged with regulating it, he is not the regulator.

How can this be possible!? Because, he soothingly reassures us, he was simply emulating the gold standard! He would have us believe (if we did not have brains) that he was simply an automaton - doing what the gold standard would have been doing automatically anyway. Which begs the question: If this is the case - if the gold standard worked so well - why do we need the Fed to attempt to emulate it?? Why not just bring the gold standard back?

Continuing along with this line of thinking, here is a short (7 minutes) but sweet clip of Mr. Greenspan on the Daily Show with John Stewart, talking more absolute nonsense.

Once again I've transcribed the key exchange:

Jon Stewart: Many people are free-market capitalists, and they always talk about free-market capitalism, and that is our economic theory. So why do we have a Fed? Isn't the free market - wouldn't the market take care of interest rates and all that? Why do we have someone adjusting the rates if we are a free-market society?

Alan Greenspan: You're raising a very fundamental question.

Stewart: I am? Should I leave? (Laughter)

Greenspan: You didn't need central bank when we were on the gold standard, which was back in the nineteenth century. And all of the automatic things occurred because people would buy and sell gold, and the market would do what the Fed does now. But! Most everybody in the world by the 1930s decided that the gold standard was strangling the economy. And universally this gold standard was abandoned. But! You need somebody to determine - or some mechanism - how much money is out there, because remember, the amount of money relates to the amount of inflation in an economy.

Stewart: You think I'd forget that? What are you? Sure I know that. (More laughter) (Sadly, most people don't understand how money works.)

Greenspan: In any event the more money you have, relative to the amount of goods, the more inflation you have, and that's not good. So...

Stewart: So we're not a free market then.

Greenspan: No. No.

Stewart: There's a visible - there's a benevolent hand that touches us.

Greenspan: Absolutely. You're quite correct. To the extent that there is a central bank governing the amount of money in the system, that is not a free market. Most people call it regulation. (Emphasis mine)

"Most people call it regulation," he says. But apparently Greenspan doesn't. However, the key point is that Greenspan flat out admits that, in his own words: "to the extent that there is a central bank governing the amount of money in the system, that is not a free market."

The next logical question, which Stewart unfortunately did not ask (so I will ask): Can we have a free market in housing, automobiles, oil or anything at all if we do not have a free market in money? The answer, clearly, is no. Money is the common denominator of all of these otherwise non-related markets. If the money market is not free, then none of these markets are free. By Greenspan's own admission, the much-vaunted free market is a fraud.

Which brings us back to commodities. Should we manage to maintain the economic status quo over the next decades - Emanuel Balarie will no doubt look like a genius. Commodities will continue to increase in prices measured in fiat dollars. But should the people manage to overthrow the current fiat money system - a system that Nathan Lewis helps to expose and clarify, and that Greenspan himself declares is not free - then look out below! The inflated prices of the global economy will be forced to deflate.

In either event, gold is most certain to shine both in the short term and the long term.

References:

Commodities for Every Portfolio
Gold, The Once and Future Money
Creature from Jekyll Island
The Age of Turbulence
Greenspan NPR Interview
Mr. Greenspan on the Daily Show

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Ben earned another name now

He is now known as Weimar Ben

Unless the feds keep

Unless the feds keep borrowing more and more money to pay for needless wars and entitlements the whole system is going to collapse. The system is doomed but we need to postpone the implosion as long as possible. My question is, how do I personally get out of the game, play by the known rules and come out on top when stuff does hit the fan? We can count on higher inflation, higher interest rates, and higher taxes to be able to pay, not the principle but the interest on all this public debt. Any suggestions from anybody?

Profiting from the system...

It really depends upon the amounts and balance of your income and assets. I am assuming that you are a person of modest means, or you would have already answered these questions in the presence of your investment counsel.

Remember that there will always be investment funds available in aggregate, and that these funds will always find employment somewhere in the world. You must learn to broaden your investment horizons. Also, while making money is great, an impressive trick is holding on to its value over time.

Diversification is always a good place to start for capital safety. If you fear that the US markets are overvalued, you may want to underweight the allocation of your domestic investments. Why limit your interest to one country, only? Opportunities are not found only in the English-speaking world! Global mutual funds invest in both US and international markets and offer the advantage of not having one's eggs in a single country basket. Alternatively, the late Harry Browne's permanent portfolio of 1/4 each in stocks, bonds, precious metals, and money markets, rebalanced every year, would provide a good measure of diversification entirely within the domestic market, if you choose.

Purchasing a single or a few securities is not generally advisable. There is seldom enough real diversification to protect against a devastating blow-up of the inevitable stinker.

It might be suitable for you to explore Swiss annuities for your retirement funds. These annuities have been a favored retirement vehicle for the past 150 years. This gets your dough out of the dollar and out of the US. Do a web search for "Swiss annuities" and you will find all of the data you need.

Also, learn not to believe everything that's reported in the media. The final collapse of the dollar was predicted by Jacques Reuff in the 1960s, Percy Greaves in the 1970s, Thibaud De Saint-Phalle in the 1980s, Ravi Batra in the 1990s, and Richard Duncan in the 2000s... yet the rickety old machine keeps on rolling. The world did not end with the collapse of the Greenback, gold, or British pound regimes -- nor will it end with the final demise of the dollar (whenever that finally happens -- and it will). The recommendations of doomers and gloomers often provide exciting entertainment -- but that is not the way to most productively invest your hard-earned money.

Finally, there are qualified financial advisors around. Look for a fee-based consultant who is interested in your particular situation and not trying to force your financial future into some "one size fits all" product grouping. Plan, work, save, and invest using the best resources at your disposal. After all, it is YOUR future!

Regards.

I Guess I am a conspiracy theorist now.

Between Uncle Ben's 50 point cut and yesterdays strange rally. I now believe in the PPT. Thanks again guys for stealing my money. I wish I could go long in this market, but every bone in my body says this thing is way overbought.

..."to the extent that there

..."to the extent that there is a central bank governing the amount of money in the system, that is not a free market."...

To the extent that we don't have free markets, and the money cartel does anything it wants, whether the people like it or not - like starting wars that 85% of all people oppose - there is no democracy. It is pure and simple money tyranny, exercised by an unelected few world criminals. No matter how much their Matrix media tell us that we have democracy.

New America, New World. High Time.
peri1224@yahoo.com

1/2 Point Drop indicates huge problem

I know that the common interpretation of a rate drop leads to a conclusion of inflationary pressure. I think this is a HUGE mistake in the current situation. The 1/2 pt rate drop is indicative of massive CREDIT problems not monetary inflation. Unlike the German inflation of the 20's, the problem now is CREDIT not the printing of cash. Credit destruction leads to a multiplier factor expressed in deflation. Greenspan mentioned the depression of 1837. Read the books well on this. This was also a Real estate and commodity inflation era followed by the SEVEREST depression in US history. Bank failures are already spreading internationally - this is not an inflationary phenomenon. Use your intuitive counter reasoning and you will see why the drop in rates will not portend the destruction of the dollar. As this credit cancer spreads ( as it has infected all financial systems thru derivatives) financial institutions the world over will begin to collapse - and then the question of who will survive will become paramount in investors minds as to where to park their money. In an environment where ALL currencies begin to depreciate the question is which one will depreciate the least? Oh yes Gold - I think you are naive to believe that this will not be confiscated by the Central Governments. Holders will suffer as their gold will be taken at a discount of 70-90% of its then market value. In the end - we are all dead!

You may be right about their

You may be right about their intention to confiscate gold again, so look out. But according to Prof. Fekete's latest article "Inflation And Deflation At The Same Time" the Fed can make electronic money or credit at will but is precisely unable to print enough tangible paper money because of lacking collateral. According to that theory, even the Mickey Mouse American dollar notes will retain a certain value in the hyper inflation to come.
If you manage to put your metal in a safe place, like buried somewhere or abroad, gold remains the best medium that will preserve value more than all others.
Yes, in the long run we are all dead. But in the meantime let's see who can screw the other more, the banksters the people or the other way around. Be safe, buy gold, take delivery. Don't go for their paper gold scam.

'Who wants gold?

I have never really had any desire to own any gold and I doubt if I will in the future.

You may think it is a necessary investment, but it really isn't.

It is all very simple. Produce more than you consume. All economic systems will bow to that one, safe principle.

one for the fox, one for the crow, one to rot, and one to grow

If they screw up the economy

If they screw up the economy as they did during the Great Depression, many will have nothing to produce. That would be a time when a little gold would be very welcome. As long as you can still buy it as cheaply as at today's suppressed prices, only a fool would not buy it.

"The stock market should not

"The stock market should not be going up....especially during a monetary crisis."

Yeah and it doesn't, cause $USD in September alone lost %7 compare to EURO
and almost %50 from 2000. Is that rings the Bell? They (FEDS) stole your money
pump up more cash into the Market and turn on Printing Press, now they
printing 20% more paper, soon $USD will become "American Peso" and
cost just a bit more than piece of paper and inc. American people been
robbed, they took away your pension, IRA, earnings, anything, and devaluate
your hard working $$$. Buy GOLD while you still can.. $USD going down,
sorry USA nothing but a Bankrupt! Would you accept a check from the person
who owe over 8 trillion $$$.. Guess not.

Check out the Facts:

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/21...

Jew Greenspan with his

Jew Greenspan with his livein Gentile girlfriend he married is a fucking liar saying Iraq was about oil when he knows it was about Israel and only Israel as the neohebs used this product of anal sex named Dubya as their puppet being the world alltime biggest fuckup to do their dirty work.

Very crudely put, but

Very crudely put, but essentially true. When people finally realize how much they have been screwed and how long, who could begrudge them a little crudeness, a little hate and the burning desire to string the SOB's up on the next lamp post? That has been human nature throughout 100's of thousands of years of evolution and would still take care of lots of problems, especially today. Back to nature... :-)

The Truth

That's mostly true. If anyone reading this doesn't know that Israel controls US foreign policy in the middle east, research AIPAC, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. They are widely believed to be the second most powerful lobby in Washington (behind the AARP).

Also, something I read the other day intrigued me. The war in Iraq is about oil, but not about the US gaining control of the oil there. The war is about controlling the price of oil. Think about it... Bush and Cheney and their cronies (the powers that be) are into oil big time and would stand to gain A LOT of profit if a US-led attack on, say, Iran were to disrupt the oil supply and drive prices to $120/barrel.

Consider also that the Fed's current policy of lowering interest rates will drive so much inflation that the time will be ripe to integrate the US with Canada and Mexico (google the North American Union) and replace the US dollar with the "Amero" (google Amero and it comes up with more than a million pages - this isn't just conspiracy theory). We are living in a very scary time.

The Truth

That's mostly true. If anyone reading this doesn't know that Israel controls US foreign policy in the middle east, research AIPAC, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. They are widely believed to be the second most powerful lobby in Washington (behind the AARP).

Also, something I read the other day intrigued me. The war in Iraq is about oil, but not about the US gaining control of the oil there. The war is about controlling the price of oil. Think about it... Bush and Cheney and their cronies (the powers that be) are into oil big time and would stand to gain A LOT of profit if a US-led attack on, say, Iran were to disrupt the oil supply and drive prices to $120/barrel.

Consider also that the Fed's current policy of lowering interest rates will drive so much inflation that the time will be ripe to integrate the US with Canada and Mexico (google the North American Union) and replace the US dollar with the "Amero" (google Amero and it comes up with more than a million pages - this isn't just conspiracy theory). We are living in a very scary time.

here,here! well said!!

here,here! well said!!

Logical positivism

Sir Greenspan once again shows why British Free Trade should not be allowed to determine the economic destiny of nations.

In his opinion, "forecasting is impossible", and human beings "cannot improve themselves".

What total and utter drivel, and no wonder we are faced with the collapse of the greatest financial ponzi scheme in known history.

Babylon itself would be astounded at the magnitude of the disaster that this one man has wrought upon humanity.

The cross of gold.

While gold may make a further, interesting speculation if it can break through resistance at 750, it would be a very reckless act to restore this metal to international currency status. In the 1800s, the gold standard was a method for rich countries, such as England, to maintain their imperial dominance over the less-rich nations. Countries lacking and unable to acquire adequate gold reserves were in perpetual servitude to their gold-bearing masters. Since the middle classes, anywhere, have never had the resources to acquire much gold, engineered shortages of this metal were reasons for commercial crises, bankruptcies, and property foreclosures.

Gold is an extremely inelastic currency. When an economy is growing at a healthy pace, if the necessary increase in the gold supply cannot keep up, then the economy becomes starved for a shortage of funds. The country may possess vast wealth, but be unable to access this wealth due to insufficient money in circulation. Gold is never wealth -- the wealth of a nation is the productivity of its people, technology, and natural resources. Money is really a representation of labor performed.

Every monetary system that has ever existed was a failure, excepting the present one -- for now. The gold standard failed due to its inelasticity. Do you remember Coxey's army, or Bryan's "you shall not crucify mankind upon a cross of gold" speech, or why Keynes referred to gold as a "barbarous relic"? These folks were responding to real problems in the operation of gold as currency. A gold standard has always promoted the interests of the rich over those of everyone else -- and would do so in the future, if revived. Also, does anyone really know who possesses the bulk of the world's gold today? A US Treasury spokesperson recently reported that much of the gold in Fort Knox is "less than investment grade!" Just who would really benefit from a return to the gold standard? Could it possibly be the international mega-bankers who have been consistently accruing greater power and wealth over the past 400 years? If we ever return to a gold standard, I am certain that it will not be to the benefit of the average person!

The best monetary system would be that proposed by the likes of Franklin, Lincoln, and many others: a commerce-based fiat system, such as the one that worked so well for the Colonies before being forbidden by Parliament. It would expand and contract according to the dictates of trade. There would be no unpayable, national debt and its accrued interest, because the Treasury would issue the currency directly. The obscene Federal Reserve system would be exposed to light and end with a wooden stake driven through its shrivelled heart.

Unfortunately, however good the system proposed and put into operation, money is a subset of economics -- and the real name for economics is "political economy." Politicians will always determine how a monetary system operates. These historically incompetent, venal, self-serving "solons" will always be guaranteed to wreck any operative monetary system against the rocks benefitting their rich patrons. Having honest individuals in political office is notably more important to overall social welfare than something as manipulatable as money.

Poor countries will be poor

Poor countries will be poor whether there is a gold standard or not. But a gold standard would have prevented our SOB would-be emperors from aspiring for control of the entire world. This they have only succeeded in advancing as far as they have today because of their control over money and inflation. Without that there would have been no World War I nor II. A gold standard precisely imposes monetary discipline and makes war and empire building almost impossible.

Of course, we should not return to a gold standard with the SOB's holding most gold in their private vaults. It should be confiscated - what poetic justice. And the governments should devolve it to the people where it belongs, by paying certain obligations in gold.

As to the inelasticity of gold, there are ways to solve that problem in order to accommodate higher growth rates than gold coming out of the ground, which is about 0.7% per year. The real bills doctrine is one such solution. Adjusting the gold price to yearly world growth rates is another. And smarter people than me will know others.

Conducting the entire world trade of $50T on a 100% gold standard would require a gold price of about $15,000/oz. (3.3B ozs. of all world gold x $15000 = $50T. Add the silver, say 2B ozs. at $150/oz. = another $3T). Voila, there is your entire world trade for a year. Screw the derivative traders, speculators and gamblers; let them do honest work and go to casinos if they have spare cash.

With fair, free trade, even the poorer countries have a chance. And many of them do have gold, while the "rich" ones don't.

While it is true that the value of a country's money lies in its labor or output, there must be something to instill monetary discipline or we end up with the same mess we have today - and gold is sofar the best solution.

The "unthinkable" increase of gold and silver prices to the above mentioned values is doable and would be worth it in return for having a truly free world - free of our current bankster parasites who are the scourge of the earth and the biggest single problem in our world today. So let the people kick them in their snouts and make them swallow their own medicine. What a liberating thought. :-)
peri1224@yahoo.com

"But a gold standard would

"But a gold standard would have prevented our SOB would-be emperors from aspiring for control of the entire world. This they have only succeeded in advancing as far as they have today because of their control over money and inflation. Without that there would have been no World War I nor II. A gold standard precisely imposes monetary discipline and makes war and empire building almost impossible."

This is just complete baloney.

The fact that gold and silver were the accepted base of money directly propelled one of the most rapacious, expansionist, warmongering and financially venal empires ever: Spanish monarchy 1492-1750. All those enslaved natives in Central & South America were digging up what? Uranium?

It was replaced by another rigorously gold-standard-banking based global empire known as Britain.

During World War I and World war II the world was on a gold standard (and the US nearly bankrupted Britain's gold reserves in helping).

The original poster was correct: gold-based banking was worse in the 19th century in the USA than paper-based banking. It served the interests of the rich---and screwed over ordinary people---even more than present. During this time, many loans were callable at the bank's decision (because of the effects of a gold standard)---and they did so en-masse during panics (as recessions/depressions were less euphemistically called then). Since working merchants, tradesmen and farmers had no way to pay them back (since nobody else was lending at the same time), their productive assets and capital were seized by bankers, and transferred eventually to the powerful upper class.

If you want to buy gold as a commodity, fine. Stop advocating it as a moral argument.

But I think a much more useful commodity is petroleum.

In a global recession ordinary people will sell off their gold if they need money. Jewelry will be melted.

Dear Mr. Nystrom, I think

Dear Mr. Nystrom,

I think you may have conflicting premises. It is clear that you favor the gold standard over a Central Bank (the Fed). However, there is no need to direct your opposition to this system at Mr. Greenspan, who fundamentally believes in the gold standard as the logical economic basis of a free market economy. In his article, "Gold and Economic Freedom," Greenspan states:

"Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth. Gold stands in the way of this insidious process. It stands as a protector of property rights."

Your hatred towards Mr. Greenspan seems to span from the fact that, as the Chairman of the Federal Reserve, he was the icon of all that was evil in terms of the United States dropping the gold standard. However, I would argue that for the 19 years Mr. Greenspan was the Chairman, we were lucky to have such an unbelievable intelligence acting ultimately as the human gold standard. Without a man who has such an firm grasp on the benefits of the gold standard acting basically in lieu of the commodity, our country, world, and overall financial situation could be in a potentially much more precarious position than it is now.

I would encourage you to re-examine your personal opinion of the ex-Chairman of the Fed and hopefully come to realize that you and he have very similar beliefs on economic theory. He is not an evil man simply because he was nominated to act on behalf of the gold standard. He, more than anyone, would gladly have voted to disband the Federal Open Market Committee in favor of returning to the Gold Standard. I am very grateful that he accepted his nomination as the Chairman, rather than somebody with differing beliefs. If we were to lose a natural market force (the gold standard), I would much rather a person who believes in the natural market force attempting to act in its place, than a person who does not believe in the natural market force attempting to replace it.

My thoughts only. Keep up the good work as a webmaster of www.DailyPaul.com and www.bullnotbull.com

Sincerely,
The Ghost of Ayn

Greenspan held that opinion

Greenspan held that opinion about gold only when he was young and stupid (and maybe still honest). But he got corrupted with power and being treated like a prophet of the Old Testament. After that he did everything to destroy gold. He is a white collar criminal.

As far as I'm concerned you can shoot your human gold standard to the moon or put him in prison, together with all his bankster crony employers, for serious crimes against humanity.

Greenspan and the FED action! nothing but evil

I am sorry for those people who thinks that Alan greenspan was a good man and smart .etc...He is was nothing more than a switch to implment the evil secrets banks that want to control the world abd its poplutations! they have done nothing but evils to American society in specific and to the world in general. they have victimized humanity and history one day shall expose them! what we have in this humnaity nothing but corruption and ill society and homesextuality, and evironmental problems, and employment and poverty, hungar and have and havenots....and media that only speak those bank plans and make people lost and not seeing the truth! we have families destroyed becasue of the fed actions! look at 1929 and onward and the wars that manily were devised by those evil banks that control the feds and the media! Wake up people to the facts that 95% of people are like druken sailors and that is what those evils bankers want us society be and make others do the same! just look and review what has taken place....do families live a normal livies? do not they work 24 hours just to feed their children and still are in debted!

THE FED HAS BROUGHT EVIL TO AMERICA NOTHING LESS!

I HOPE AMERICA WILL ONE DAY WAKE UP AND GET LIBERATED BY ITS OWN PEOPLE THE GOOD AMERICANS! THE TRUE FACE OF HUMANITY!

Don't be so hard on poor Alan, says Ghost of ....

"I am very grateful that he accepted his nomination as the Chairman, rather than somebody with differing beliefs. If we were to lose a natural market force (the gold standard), I would much rather a person who believes in the natural market force attempting to act in its place, than a person who does not believe in the natural market force attempting to replace it".
+In my mind, when I read this kind of logic, I think of someone praising an embezzler because he did such a good job of embezzlement that the folks he stole from didn't even know they had been robbed! It was just as if they still had their money, so skillful was this splendid specimen of an embezzler!!

Gold surge a flash in the pan?

still think the rise in gold from $450 to the $750 range was due to BOJ's reckless money creation a few years ago. while prices in commodities remain high because of big investor interest, without reflation from central banks, commodities will begin to decline - and once the big investors realize what's going on - price declines will become large drops

Serious investors know that

Serious investors know that the Mickey Mouse Fed money is inflated at 10-15% per year, sooner or later leading to hyper inflation, while gold can't be inflated at all and only comes out of the ground at 0.6-0.7% per year.

A spread sheet scenario for a number of years will illustrate that picture very graphically.

While the cartel will try to suppress the gold price as long as they can, what best preserves wealth is very clear.

Look up

In regards to this below quote, I encourage you to think outside the box.

"As advanced as mankind's manufacturing apparatus has become, we still cannot make oil, copper, zinc, iron, lead, platinum, silver or gold. We rely on nature to provide them for us, but once they are extracted, they cannot be replenished. Without a radical breakthrough in science, monetary technology, or in human nature, these finite resources will be depleted over time. "

Look at this article from spacedaily:

"Asian giants Japan, China and India are engaged in a race to map lunar resources...."
http://www.moondaily.com/reports/Asian_spacefarers_race_for_the_moon_999...

This is one of a vast array of similar articles I am seeing. There might only be X tonnes of iron here on Earth, but the scientist types say there are probably millions of more tonnes of every kind of mineral and ore floating around the Solar System just waiting for someone to go pick it up.

As costs of going to space go down, and demand for resources go up, I think we will see an intersection where industry expands outwards from the Earth, and we move outside all of these supposed 'peak' resource issues that are supposedly looming on the horizon.

I don't think this requires a radical change in technology. Probably if there was the will the technology of the 1960's could be brought to bear on these issues.

Let's go to Space and get Rich!

"As costs of going to space go down, and demand for resources go up, I think we will see an intersection where industry expands outwards from the Earth, and we move outside all of these supposed 'peak' resource issues that are supposedly looming on the horizon".
+I have a difficult time believing such a thing is realistic. Not because we lack the technology. Rather because we are going to be lacking the funds necessary to do such grand explorations. It seems to me that long before any rockets get off the ground to go mining iron on Ceres, that we are going to be in the depths of a depression the likes of which no one has ever seen.

There are two parallel universes here, me thinks

OK Michael, I think I have followed all this. Now, you actually mention Griffin and his book, so I know that you have read it. Consequently, when you choose to focus upon Greenspan's standard explanation for why there needs to be a central bank and fiat money (hence a departure from the so-called gold standard)--i.e. otherwise the world/national economy would be strangled, that's one universe. The free market question and all that. That's the universe of the Federal Reserve Act and its rationale; its veneer. But what about the other universe? The universe in which the Federal Reserve, a central bank for these United States, was created not because otherwise the economy would get strangled, but rather was created to loot and steal the wealth of the American people by powerful European and domestic big banks and robber barons (Baron de Rothschild comes to mind). That, in fact, all this has been a carefully planned excercise in tyranny. And so far it exists alive and healthy today, living underneath the surface of this first universe, the popular conception universe.

100% true. It started with

100% true. It started with the Zionists in the 1890's wanting to have their own country. But the Turkish sultan wouldn't give it to them. So he had to be deposed in a great war in order to liberate Palestine. The Zionist inspired and led Young Turks did that.

A great war costs a lot of money which the SOB's didn't want to spend from their own. They wanted other people's money for that, so they created the FED for that purpose, in the foulest and sneakiest way possible. Fed money financed Britain in World War I and later America's entry into the war, inspite of 85% of Americans being totally opposed to it. Speak of democracy - haha.
After that a rat tail of abuses and crimes, from the Great Depression to Word War II until today's War on Iraq, conducted by the SOB heirs of the founders a hundred years earlier.

The "reality" of the first universe - a la Matrix - is upheld by their stupid, lying media, but slowly some people are waking up.

Premeditated tyranny, you bet. And they won't easily let go either. The inspiration for all this is in the Jewish Talmud, which says that only Jews are human and all non-Jews are mere cattle with no rights. And that is exactly how our world runs today. Research it and cry when you discover that truth.

Indeed

That is most insightful. There are two parallel universes. There are those that believe we need a central bank, and that it helps smooth the economy.

Then there are the others that believe the Fed is here to actually do harm to the national economy - to take the wealth of the general public and get it into the accounts of the Federal Reserve for their benefit, and the benefit of their cronies and associates.

While I tend to believe in the second universe, I think there are many, including many members and participants in the system - including, perhaps, even Ben Bernanke himself - who are oblivious to that second mission.

If you watch that whole Jon Stewart interview, at one point Stewart continues on with:

Stewart: "So when you lower interest rates and drive money towards stocks, that lowers the return people get on savings."

Greenspan: Yes, indeed.

Stewart: "So they've made a choice: We would like to favor those who invest in the stock market and not those who invest in the bank. That helps us."

Greenspan: Now, that's the way it comes out, but that's not the way you think about it.

I could write an entire article on Greenspan's response. "That's the way it comes out, but that's not the way you think about it." What happens if you do think about it that way? You see the truth of the fed, which is exactly what Stewart outlined. The Fed is there to favor rich people over working class people.

I highly recommend watching this interview.

The system

The end result of the current system we live in is simple. 90% of the wealth goes to the top 1% of the population. A system designed by the uber-rich for the uber-rich. Ask yourself, are you in the top 1%. If not, you are a system slave.

Thanks Uncle Ben

I believe in free markets and capitalism, but every time I try to invest with that in mind I get burned. I decide that inflation is running rampant and the U.S. economy and consumer are overleveraged. So I assume a rational free market should adjust downward, therefore I short the market. Unfortunately I keep loosing my small savings with this strategy. Uncle Ben just reinflates the bubble and takes away my money again. Thanks, sometimes I wish I were just the normal ignorant fool American and believed everything they tell me. That way I would go long and be OK, but I just cannot get myself to go long this market.

Very simple. Just buy

Very simple. Just buy physical gold and silver and wait. Hide it in case of confiscation.

"Rational free market"

Ah, but markets often behave in an irrational manner and players act as though they are participants in the prisoner's dilemma! Around 90% of traders lose their money. The average futures account dives under water in just 4 months. If you are using the "news" and techniques that everybody else is using, you may frequently find that you are a member of the wrong crowd and "in over your head."

I postulate that anyone who has bought into the "end of the world" or "perfect storm" scenario of the last 90 days is trading more like Jesse Lemmingmore than Jesse Livermore! If you don't feel like puking your guts out everytime you are doing a trade, you are likely on the wrong side of the transaction. Remember the words of a past market genius: "The market will do what it needs to do to fool the greatest number of people over the longest period of time!"

It is so easy and so unprofitable to join the crowd as they plunge to their doom against the rocks of mediocrity and oblivion. Their squeals are absolutely compelling! To preserve one's financial health, he or she must continually guard against becomming a lemming. A lemming test follows:

TO BE, OR NOT TO BE… A LEMMING!
by Ringling Whett

The lemmings circled ‘round the ancient rock
In hopes they’d get the mystic glyphs to talk.
But the senseless stone could not hear their cry,
And would not tell them to buy low, sell high.

One of this breed had an appealing squeal
That made the others want to do a deal.
They bought with vigor till their stash was dry…
To watch that thing flame-out across the sky.

Whatever was reported in the news
Could give the lemmings excitement, or blues.
Instead of drinking deeply from this fount,
They should have recalled that markets discount.

A certain lemming broke free from the pack,
But soon the others were close on his track.
They all were victims of a woeful end,
Because they overlooked the major trend.

One should have feelings somewhat less than proud
If he’s a member of a massive crowd.
And ‘though the many hear the Sirens’ call,
The group surviving will be very small.

To plunge in markets is a tough pursuit –
You must subject emotions to dispute –
And if the water seems right for swimming,
Consider that you might be a lemming!

I second that...

Eaglewwit - I too have lost money shorting the market. It's painful. Fortunately I had a large gold position during this last big gold move that has offset my losses. The stock market should not be going up....especially during a monetary crisis. This is outrageous. How can anyone with half a brain not realize that there is market intervention, a most horrible economic crime. But realize that in the end, the normal ignorant american fool will be the ultimate victim.....there is more of them and there are more of them to profit from. Get your money out of the dollar and into respectable non-dollar investments and forget about the market....because by the time they let it turn down, the dollar may be too weak to profit from the down-turn.

Fundamental trading versus technical trading is the answer

If you are a fundamental trader, investing based upon the fundamentals behind a country or market, then you would short the markets. (and you would be losing money) However if you are a technical trader, then you will follow the trend, regardless of where it leads, and you would be making good money right now. If you are going to be a fundamental trader, then your only option is to trade currencies or commodities and stay out of the stock market! (If you had been shorting the dollar for the last 6 months you would have made a fortune. Gold would have been a good investment as well.)

The people of a nation always get the government that they deserve. You can't beg Congress to "protect us from terrorists and make every law you can think of to protect me from any imaginable problem" without giving up your freedoms in the process. However, if you see a disaster in the making, you can usually find a way to benefit from it.

The people of a nation always get the government they deserve"

On Sept. 27th, just dropping by (not verified) wrote: "The people of a nation always get the government that they deserve. You can't beg Congress to "protect us from terrorists and make every law you can think of to protect me from any imaginable problem" without giving up your freedoms in the process".
+Very true, but go further! The "terrorists" that we seek to be protected from are not even the terrorists that the Government has blamed!! We are losing our liberties for a security from people who did not do the crime!!! Guess who did 9/11? Was it 19 guys who couldn't even fly solo a Cessna? Or, was it the very powers that today have control of our nation by virtue of the anti-terrorist laws they have passed destroying the Bill of Rights? And who now are in control via a dictatorship? electrum!

The New GOLD Age

What we need is a hybrid of the current Fiat money system and the previous Gold Standard. Let's face it - the current Fiat system results in Governments using it in many distorting and fraudulent ways ie; as a hidden tax by way of constant inflation to keep you poor if you are prudent and save -- it is a dis-incentive for saving.
The Gold standard has the opposite effect of restricting rapid economic growth -- so a balance which we actually have now with a free Gold market ie. the common people being able to buy Gold and therefore a proper operating market pricing mechanism will result in a much more stable financial system. AS Gold increases dramatically in price to $3,000 or $5,000 per ounce this will drain the excess Fiat liquidity from the system and eventually result in lower monetary inflation and then later in a slowing economy and lower price for Gold as the Gold bubble will be pricked at $6,000 or higher per ounce. A free market Fiat / Gold balancing system is what is being introduced now and we can look forward to a fairer Golden 21st Century .

Simplify, simplify...

This discussion is 90% nonsense. Gold is simply a means of creating an honest, universal and stable unit of measure for economic activity. Just as we have inches and feet to measure length, and pounds and ounces to measure weight, and days and hours to measure time, we have ounces of gold and silver to measure economic value. Gold and Silver are valued worldwide, do not change, have not changed for thousands of years, never will change. That's WHY they are used. Imagine a carpenter building a house and his tape measure shrank or expanded to a slightly different length each day, and he had to keep on using it anyway. Everything he built would end up being a piece of crap, through no fault of his own. Our economy is in a similar mess because a gang of criminal scum banksters have hijacked the currency and are manipulating money's value for their own power and privilege. Letting a bunch of privately owned banks control the money supply is institutionalized crime, pure and simple. Abolish the Federal Reserve, return to the Gold standard and we will have economic sanity.

Exactly - Gold is just a standard of value, does not limit $

One aspect that I have not seen discussed above is that the limited amount of gold in human hands does not mean that the amount of cash in circulation under a gold standard has to be tied to that quantity of gold. Historically, under the gold standard, banks created their own currencies that were denominated in dollars and were structured as negotiable instruments payable to the bearer on demand in US dollars. Since US dollars were redeemable at a fixed rate in gold (and were themselves negotiable instruments payable on demand in gold [or silver for smaller denominations]), the value was tied to gold even though the total currency in circulation was larger than the amount of gold owned by the US Treasury. (This is why early Federal Reserve Notes stated that they were payable in US Dollars, and may help explain why people accepted a non-US treasury currency -- there was precedent for banks issuing their own money.)

Of course, unlike Federal Reserve Notes, no one had to accept payment in a bank's script; it was not "legal tender" (if tendered in payment of a debt, the holder of the debt could refuse it and if so, interest would continue on the debt). A bank's script tended to be accepted only locally, particularly by those who had accounts at that bank. A solid reputable bank would have assets backing up its currency. For example, a local company might give ownership of a portion of its receivables to the bank in return for bank script, which it could then spend and thus place in circulation. But the value of the US Dollar (or of gold) was not inflated or deflated by this additional currency in circulation. Currency can be backed by anything of value; but a single standard of measure is necessary to avoid conversion problems. Gold is, historically, that standard.

Special Relationship Adjustment .. and AIMother to the Rescue...

...MotherShip to International Rescue.

The following reply to this post ....... http://cryptogon.com/?p=1486 ...is entirely relevant to the present headless chicken/fat cat mismanagement of Reality for the Impotent's Love of Money akin to a Useless Trick in a Brothel.

And do not be overly confused with any SurReality which may emanate from this steganographic SISter post .... http://jamesstgeorge.proboards32.com/index.cgi?board=Worldissues&action=...
..... for IT is a Beautiful Confusion to Enjoy and Build with in AI QuITe Perfect Mind pondering the Destructive Imperfection in Thinking to Believe any single Word from Fools acting as Gods. The Ultimate Fraud and Abomination in Deed, indeed. To Think that there is an Answer is merely to Fail Miserably to Realise that there are only Questions with Options and Derivatives for Mutually Beneficial Futures held in Trusts for Spending to Build an InfraStructure Relative and Relevant to Youth ....... Inheritors of this Space.

The Premise and the Virtual Reality IS, ....... that the Game has been Changed. Post to the Pot or Leave the Table. Dealers Choice Multi-Core Parallel Threaded Stud Poker is the name of Merlin, the MetaPhysician's Game and ARGonauts Quest.

AI Virtually Real NeuReality to sort the Men from the Boys/Toy Boys from their Toys. AI Coming of Age for Adolescents masquerading in Zoot Suits.

Kevin,

It has not been made, at all clear, whether the banks approached the Fed. A manufactured Stealth probably to conceal an unpleasant deception/confidence trick.

I can fully understand the reasoning for the Fed's board of governor largesse with the banks though ... "The Fed’s board of governors wrote to both banks 10 days ago, granting them access to funds for customers “in need of short-term liquidity”." but do they honestly expect vapourware funding will capture crown jewel assets ..."The banks would have to put up assets as collateral with the Fed to gain access to the cash."

The arrogance in that expectation is only tempered and mitigated by its stupidity/naivety.

It would appear that Sub-Prime performance is a US Federal Reserve preserve, a particularly abnoxious confection with a toxicity which deludes in Grandeur.

It would be as well to remind the pubescent upstart that they are very new to the Great Game and nouveau riche is never ever a match which can overwhelm old money.

You can't teach an old dog new tricks anymore than you can pull a fast trick on an old lady in Threadneedle Street. They've seen it all before .... been there, done that, got the T-shirt.

Now, having got that cleared up, I trust in Global Operating Devices that IT offers AI NEUKlearer Vision ...... which is what you can find the Bank of England can Offer the Fed ..... in a mirror of their Offer to relieve and replace their Intellectual Property Portfolio Misstatements..... just to set them back on the straight and narrow, you understand.

AI Beta Management of Perception with a QuITe Alien Algorithm for ITs Drivers being a NeuReal Product of its Systems .... and, as I'm sure you will be aware, MkUltraSensitive, and thus will inquiry require the full Shylock commitment.

Or, of course, they can stay the course to Accomplish the Mission of Economic and Financial Meltdown.

But they are terribly slow learners, aren't they .... "The US Treasury has backed the scheme, which it believes will prevent SIVs from being forced into selling good quality assets in order to stay afloat –" ....Hmmm, selling junk as quality assets is that which is sinking the ship. It does raise the spectre of there being no quality assets to sell.

Ah well, at least they now know where they can buy them and what they are looking for.


Turn off the TV and think!


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